because if they pass too much they're going to be worried about a general election. if they don't pass enough they could be worried about a primary election. >> there was an interesting article in the national journal today. and they said that the democrats may be misreading the polls that actually doesn't take into account the level of intensity on the side of the nra. and maybe it's not matched on the side of people who want that change. the nra has been better funded for such a long time. is that a realistic assessment. >> sure, the nra is well organized. but i think we need to look at how much money they spent, tens of millions of dollars in the last election and what kind of return they had. they had less than 1% of return of districts they went into and candidates they were supporting. so i do think there's still a bit of a myth around how strong the nra's political capital is. >> it was interesting, i had charlie rangel on. on monday, more than 20 episcopal bishops are going to march to protest gun violence. and they're asking hundreds of people, maybe thousan